I looked on ebay and there a few cheap ones on there. Problem is getting a MT3 arbor to match them, doesnt seem to many which will suit me. I think I might buy a face mill off ebay and make a straight shanked arbor for it which I can run in a collet and adjust dimensions as needed.

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Home › Forums › General Questions › Difference between face mill and indexable end mill? This topic has 14 replies, 10 voices, and was last updated 9 September 2015 at 23:22 by Ady Wilson. Viewing 15 posts - 1 through 15 (of 15 total) Author Posts 8 September 2015 at 21:28 #203615 Ady WilsonParticipant @adywilson52106 I want to use a face mill in my milling machine. I have never used one before and the largest end mill I have used is 20mm hss. I use a fly cutter when I need to get a decent finish on a part but the obvious drawback is small amount which can be removed each pass. Essentially I want to face off some parts and a standard endmill is taking way to long and way to much work to do it. So I want to have a try with a face mill but am finding it difficult to find a suitable one for my machine. Machine takes 3mt tooling and manual says 50mm max diameter for face mill use. I have looked everywhere but cant seem to locate a complete unit in 3mt. So I was looking at indexable end mills which are easy to find in one unit and are reasonably cheap compared to a face mill. So my question is will the indexable end mill give me a reasonable surface finish when facing material? or am I better trying to get a face mill? Advert 8 September 2015 at 21:28 #24100 Ady WilsonParticipant @adywilson52106 8 September 2015 at 22:14 #203618 S.D.L.Participant @s-d-l

So I want to have a try with a face mill but am finding it difficult to find a suitable one for my machine. Machine takes 3mt tooling and manual says 50mm max diameter for face mill use. I have looked everywhere but cant seem to locate a complete unit in 3mt. So I was looking at indexable end mills which are easy to find in one unit and are reasonably cheap compared to a face mill.

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An octagonal (8 sided) tip has a very low low tooth loading and if you rotate the tip the right way you can use all eight edges. I used one on a 2 morse taper with no problems so 3 morse should be fine. The arbors should be available with the usual diameters such as 19mm and 27mm if I remember correctly.

I bought this combination of 63mm face mill and arbor for my Chester Eagle 25/ Axminster ZX25 etc type mill (M12 drawbar) and have been very pleased with it:

Seco make good quality face mills for these tips but they are not cheap. Mine was £25 secondhand from a Myford open day a few years ago.

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I too am looking for an MT3 shell end mill arbor but of 13 mm spigot. They are available on the internet but the price is high. The only reason is I have 13mm hole shell end mills I cannot use. There are plenty of shell end cutters on there too. 30, 40, 50 and up in diameter.

There isn't a 'difference' is between an end mill and a face mill, in that the latter are large diameter and meant for taking broad facing cuts. Either type can use index inserts or not.

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I want to use a face mill in my milling machine. I have never used one before and the largest end mill I have used is 20mm hss. I use a fly cutter when I need to get a decent finish on a part but the obvious drawback is small amount which can be removed each pass. Essentially I want to face off some parts and a standard endmill is taking way to long and way to much work to do it.

Advantage over flycutting is simply that (say) 4 cutting edges allow four times the feedrate for the same quality of finish, plus carbide allows a much faster speed of operation, so you could easily be facing 8-10 times faster than with a flycutter for the same finish.

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Thanks for all the input everyone much appreciated. I managed to find one on ebay with 10 tips for £35+5 for delivery. I had to order the arbor from Hungary (ebay shop) cause I couldnt find a MT3, M12x1.75, 22mm anywhere, came to approx £35 with delivery so altogether it will stand me at about £75 so I am reasonably happy with that.

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As JES said, try CTC Tools. Just had a look and their 63mm facemill with MT3 arbor and ten inserts costs £74.03. Then you'll have to add P&P, of course. Still reasonable, I reckon. It's where I get a lot of my tooling from and I'm very pleased with the quality.

Why not buy a MT 3 blank arbour from Ebay and machine to match your face mill far more rigid than a straight shank griped in something else.

So my question is will the indexable end mill give me a reasonable surface finish when facing material? or am I better trying to get a face mill?

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