Things are always announced and proposed but we get drip feed of critical bug fixes and elementary improvements that don't change much in overall package.

There is a huge difference in height of 8 TPI and 48 TPI thread. So you could define tool as a crowbar as long as you use correct settings in operation that will result in correct G-code output when posted.

I disagree with VicKosta's response here. If I am looking to setup a threading tool (in my case ER16 AG60) in the thread library, I do want to define a thread pitch for the insert, separate from the thread pitch of the thread it will actually cut. In this case, I too am curious, should I use the max pitch or the mean? In the tool library, thread pitch clearly changes the cutting tip size of the insert. I have noticed in some setups that the first thread pass is extremely heavy. I wonder if defining the insert thread pitch in a different way would alleviate that? Anyone have any insight?

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Operantly you have to have something in the field of tool definition or it won't let you save the tool, but argument over what value to put in there is pointless in case of insert that can be used for range of threads and actual value for pitch is determined in operation and not tool definition.

That will configure tip to scale equal to thread pitch so that when you simulate cutting, each pass appears to be in proportion to expected result.

@daniel.pacific Glad to know the turning library is being worked on. I would really like to see better tool information for the holder (description and EDP number) as well as the insert. I am currently trying to work around this lack of user fields on my Excel setup sheet. I would be very nice if it was a section Parameter for each tool. I might even go so far as a user field to define the tool block which is bolted on the turret, as that could vary between setups and with different holders held in different orientations.

I am not saying the insert determines the thread height, nor that this field in the tool library determines the pitch of the cut threads. My disagreement is that your reply said not to enter any value in the tool definition.

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Tool definition, tool appearance and visual presentation in simulation for turning leaves a lot to imagination so you have to know what to ignore and what makes valid G-code.

In the geometry panel, it asks for thread pitch. This insert has a variable thread pitch from 0.5mm to 1.5mm. I could not figure out how to add a variable thread pitch. Any suggestions? Is width the same as IC?

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Since feed rate corresponding to actual thread pitch is determined in operation and not tool definition, answer to your question about what purpose pitch setting has in tool definition is simple,.... simulation.

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I disagree with VicKosta's response here. If I am looking to setup a threading tool (in my case ER16 AG60) in the thread library, I do want to define a thread pitch for the insert, separate from the thread pitch of the thread it will actually cut. In this case, I too am curious, should I use the max pitch or the mean? In the tool library, thread pitch clearly changes the cutting tip size of the insert. I have noticed in some setups that the first thread pass is extremely heavy. I wonder if defining the insert thread pitch in a different way would alleviate that? Anyone have any insight?

Speaking in general, it's often the case where these statements are true when there is human error when it comes to inputs in Fusion. Now, I will admit, there is sometimes a "collision" on the retract of the end of a thread pass, that is a known bug currently awaiting investigation. It comes from the rapid move that Simulation thinks is there, but which actually doesn't show up in the program

This is universal 60 degree insert that has sharp tip to accommodate fine threads that have no fillet at thread ruth, there is no setting for that in Fusion.

Good to hear that you are actively working lathe tools in the new tool library. Please consider a way to handle inserts that are designed for a variable pitch, like the 11ERA60. For now, how would I handle it? The pitch is 0.5 - 1.5 mm, 48-16 tpi. Should I enter the min number, max number or a mid value?

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If Fusion was to refine these parameters, you could count on resulting G-code to be much closer to target but I haven't see any aggressive effort to make turning worth some respect compared to other CAM packages.

I can have box of those inserts for years and never run out of inserts because of it's limited use and because I use full profile inserts for every pitch.

This is just another software like others  with the basic core of the software does not work ,i mean it's not like it is something new!

What numbers do I put in for a 16ERAG60?  I've found multiple websites that list this insert with different dimensions.  Tormach tells me to touch off the tool using the face.  Fusion is using the tip it seems.  Most sites list the dimension from the face to the tip of the tool in the horizontal direciton as 1.7mm.  I've tried both, this is what I get. (see attached)

Pitch of a thread is distance from one like point to the next, 11ERA60 insert can cover dozen or so thread pitches and so you don't enter "mid" or any value in tool definition.

If you are making 1/2-28 threads, your feed rate is .03571. If you are running metric threads on machine operating in inch mode, .5 mm pitch is just that, .01968 converted to inch and you are allowed to use 5 decimal places in threading cycles.

I just want what I see in Simulation to at least come close to matching what I see when the machine runs.  Everything else is flawless and intuitive for me so far, save for the cryptic insert dimensions page.  Specifically, what is the insert "Width"??

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The thread pitch defined in the library changes the size of the insert as modeled. My question is how, if at all, does this change in modeled size affect the programmed tool path? Perhaps this value serves no function at this time? Although @daniel.pacific says that it is used in message 3, perhaps he is just referring to the pitch as defined in the program, not the tool library?

This insert does not produce full profile threads, turning tool is needed to form major diameter in outside threading and boring bar is needed to form minor diameter in internal threading.

In reality threads have complex specifications and universal 60 degree insert is not suitable for wide range of threads because in attempt to cover them all, it doesn't confirm to any of them but it is usable for loose tolerance work.

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You cannot have multiple definitions for single pitch thread, these are the facts, not an opinion, you can only disagree with opinions not with facts,.... unless you believe in "alternative facts".

As I stated before ER16 AG60 is an insert that covers range of threads from fine to course pitch, it is not full profile insert, meaning it does not determine thread height.

If you draw conclusion from above then, question over low, high or mid value has no meaning or practical purpose, other then to save tool with something in pitch field which in itself is pointless and should not be part of threading tool definition in lathe threading.

Good to hear that you are actively working lathe tools in the new tool library. Please consider a way to handle inserts that are designed for a variable pitch, like the 11ERA60. For now, how would I handle it? The pitch is 0.5 - 1.5 mm, 48-16 tpi. Should I enter the min number, max number or a mid value?

I switched over to the old library and it had the graphic which helped, but there are still a couple areas I could use some help.

I've done it by backing the offset off and sneaking up on it. If you are lucky enough to have a set of thread mics, that speeds up the process.

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We are actively working on the tool definitions for Turning in the new library. We are very aware of the issues with no reference images, using pitch to define a tool, and the parameters used to define the tools not being clear.

You can set your tool pitch to whatever you like in tool library but in operation, that value translates to feed per revolution which is specific to thread pitch you are cutting in that operation.

You are overthinking this, variable pitch means that insert is able to produce threads ranging from 12 threads per inch to 40 threads per inch as a rough example, depth of threads verry as pitch changes.

how do you know the depth of the xut with a variable tool? I want to do a 1mm pitch and normally it should have a depth of 0.514mm but it does not fit, if i make it 0.614mm is does fit but this I found by trail and error. Are there charts for this?

Now since you cannot define tool as a crowbar, it operantly needs to confirm to the kind of thread you are making, therefore, after you define threading operation parameters, edit tool to match the pitch being used in operation.

Looking up the meaning of the alphanumeric identifier of the 11ERA60 insert, there is no definition for Tolerance and Cross section. I looked in the Engineers Black Book at the table for regular mill inserts and the 4th character of the mill insert matches the Fusion 360 drop down choices for Cross section. Looking at the 11ERA60 it looks like cross section T. Is this the right choice? Since the 11ERA60 doesn't specify tolerance, I don't have a clue what to enter. Any suggestions?

Thanks for your response. I am new to Fusion 360 and I got hung up at creating the threading tool. I looked at the threading operation and I see now that what you enter for the tool is overridden by the lathe threading operation. So I can see now that it doesn't matter what is entered for the tool pitch value in the tool library.

I was entering a lathe threading tool with the 11ERA60 insert into the new library and having difficulty with the insert tab. The new library insert tab was lacking the little graphic that shows the dimension graphically on the insert. This just added to the confusion.

Also, 3ERA60 is generic 60 degree threading insert, it only fully complies with specific thread where root radius happens to match one on tip of the insert, all other threads that insert can cut will have different radius value for root and that insert will produce out of spec's minor or major diameter respectively.

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So is there no way to define the insert in Fusion so that Simulation = G-Code = Cut part?  I really don't get WTF it's doing.  I'm either crashing into the shoulder or not getting enough thread cut.

This is basic rule regarding pitch, number of passes for various depths of threads and materials is found in more detailed reference books and charts along with other spec's.

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Threading passes produced by Fusion are off target with actual pitch measurement, that's in part because insert is not really defined for full profile including tip radius. I tend to back off in X axis, fine tune threads to Go/No G0 gage or pitch diameter measurement then see what value I end up with in wear offset for X axis.

If visual effect is not spoiled by tool crashing at the end of each pass (long standing bug), you'll get fairly decent representation of threads if you turn the model visibility off.

What pitch is the insert designed to? If the thread range is 8-48, is the insert molded for 8TPI or somewhere in between?

On lathe, threads are done using feed per revolution, so if you are making 1/2-20 threads, 20 means 20 threads per inch. You divide one inch into 20 and you get .05 as your feed rate, you enter that into "pitch" field of threading operation. Tool will progress .05 in Z axis for each revolution of spindle.